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Post by Englocked on Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:34 pm

I was wondering a few things

1) how to counter mass upgraded shades early in the game ?
2) what to build behind main wall to prevent units from getting in your base? walls can get destroyed by v3 missile and immune buildings don't stand a chance vs shades
3) is it possible to win vs a vamp who got 3 tiger claws and high armor ?

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:36 pm

1) Use Gold Mine defensive wall method.
2) Either walls or massive Gold Mines.
3) I can easily pawn a level 100 Vampire with 20k base stats and over 60k gold without effort.
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Englocked on Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:54 pm

I'll try that goldmines method.

How do you pwn such vampire since he destroy any wall in like 1 second with these tiger claws ? slayerwall maybe ? :p
Hmm, I've checked a level 100 vamp with 3 tiger claws kills any wall in 1 hit, except tank wall wich needs 2 hits -,-

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Greg on Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:54 am

I have the best method ever... But it should not be legal... So i wont tell sry...

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:43 am

Long experience, mastering usage of vampire and knowing all its weaknesses and play more ^^ Then you'll find out the method yourself.
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by rinxx420 on Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:58 am

1) how to counter mass upgraded shades early in the game ?
2) what to build behind main wall to prevent units from getting in your base? walls can get destroyed by v3 missile and immune buildings don't stand a chance vs shades
3) is it possible to win vs a vamp who got 3 tiger claws and high armor ?

1. comet towers/wall of truesight Razz
2.either 2 more walls or healing towers or manaburn/armor reducing
3. yes mass last endgame upgrade of comettowers about 4-6... have a armor reducer wall reduce 960 armor.... and that vamp will go down like a piece of butter on a stack of hot flap jacks
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:07 pm

rinxx420 wrote:
1) how to counter mass upgraded shades early in the game ?
2) what to build behind main wall to prevent units from getting in your base? walls can get destroyed by v3 missile and immune buildings don't stand a chance vs shades
3) is it possible to win vs a vamp who got 3 tiger claws and high armor ?

1. comet towers/wall of truesight Razz
2.either 2 more walls or healing towers or manaburn/armor reducing
3. yes mass last endgame upgrade of comettowers about 4-6... have a armor reducer wall reduce 960 armor.... and that vamp will go down like a piece of butter on a stack of hot flap jacks
1. Comet do not work well against mass shades.
2. Walls can be destroyed by V3 and Pulse Gem.
3. Good vampires will buy 2 Shield+800 and 1 Mask of Undeath.
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Englocked on Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:11 am

Hmm well I already found a lame method to prevent the vamp from getting in my base. I spam a lot workers at the entrance and I keep surrounding the vamp with them, the main vamp having no windwalk, he can't get out and is forced to teleport eventually (assuming I have some strong towers).

And is there a point about building these expensive walls at late game (except spike and purity)? I mean since they get destroyed in one hit, I could very well use houses instead..

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:51 pm

Englocked wrote:Hmm well I already found a lame method to prevent the vamp from getting in my base. I spam a lot workers at the entrance and I keep surrounding the vamp with them, the main vamp having no windwalk, he can't get out and is forced to teleport eventually (assuming I have some strong towers).

And is there a point about building these expensive walls at late game (except spike and purity)? I mean since they get destroyed in one hit, I could very well use houses instead..
Professional vampires would take advantage of these workers to feed.
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Englocked on Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:20 pm

!|cff0000ffClue wrote:
Englocked wrote:Hmm well I already found a lame method to prevent the vamp from getting in my base. I spam a lot workers at the entrance and I keep surrounding the vamp with them, the main vamp having no windwalk, he can't get out and is forced to teleport eventually (assuming I have some strong towers).

And is there a point about building these expensive walls at late game (except spike and purity)? I mean since they get destroyed in one hit, I could very well use houses instead..
Professional vampires would take advantage of these workers to feed.

Well there are no professional vampires. Good vampires would take advantage of these workers to feed, even bad vampires would I think. But what to do then with that feed ? they won't get much stronger, their inventory is full of the best items and the upgrades at research center takes longer and longer..
Mass marines maybe ?

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:55 pm

Englocked wrote:
!|cff0000ffClue wrote:
Englocked wrote:Hmm well I already found a lame method to prevent the vamp from getting in my base. I spam a lot workers at the entrance and I keep surrounding the vamp with them, the main vamp having no windwalk, he can't get out and is forced to teleport eventually (assuming I have some strong towers).

And is there a point about building these expensive walls at late game (except spike and purity)? I mean since they get destroyed in one hit, I could very well use houses instead..
Professional vampires would take advantage of these workers to feed.

Well there are no professional vampires. Good vampires would take advantage of these workers to feed, even bad vampires would I think. But what to do then with that feed ? they won't get much stronger, their inventory is full of the best items and the upgrades at research center takes longer and longer..
Mass marines maybe ?
If you fight me, i'll take 2 seconds to kill all 48 of your workers.
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Englocked on Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:12 pm

If you fight me, i'll take 2 seconds to kill all 48 of your workers.[/quote]

And how would you do that? if it's not a secret cyclops

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by SaMmM on Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:52 pm

Englocked wrote:If you fight me, i'll take 2 seconds to kill all 48 of your workers.

And how would you do that? if it's not a secret cyclops[/quote]

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Englocked on Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:23 pm

Does stomp deal 8k damage?
Rain of ice maybe ?

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:31 am

If you upgrade your worker to max HP, i'll play like my vamp is frozen ^^ I already mastered how to control the vamp... but i cannot buy multiple items. Limited choice since i cannot drop an item @.@
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Englocked on Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:11 pm

Hmm what do you mean playing like your vamp is frozen ??
Btw I'm not using harvesters, actually I'm using blood elf builders or something so I'm not limited to 48 workers and I can still get wood.

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:24 pm

FYI, even if you have multiple workers to block me, all i need to do is kill them all. I will not take more than 10 seconds to kill every worker you have including your House that is training them.
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Englocked on Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:10 pm

Well I don't know how you would do that. Mind about telling me? And btw I don't use only one house to pump them, Actually I need less than 10 seconds to fill my screen with builders.

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:50 pm

Just download Garena and get a 1.21a warcraft 3 then i'll demonstrate what I mean.
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Englocked on Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:27 pm

alright, when ?

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:40 am

Just invite me to battle anytime. My Garena UID is !|cff0000ffClue
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Englocked on Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:04 pm

Well, you got through my workers but it took you some time while my towers were dealing their dps. When walls get destroyed in one hit, I think it is an effective strategy, even though u showed me that it's less effective than I thought!

You still have to show me how to kill a well fed vamp :p

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Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:22 pm

Err... i might need a new PC if i were to kill your base efficiently since i was lagging like a monkey =.="
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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by Englocked on Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:03 pm

For sure. Anyway, it was not a real game for me, just one game to proove your point about workers wall.

I figured that the mass defensive goldmines can easily be abused to block vamp since it takes forever to kill all those goldmines. With enough towers, the vamp haven't enough time to kill all goldmines and has to go away, leaving you the opportunity to rebuild goldmines.. I guess that's a way to defeat a well fed vamp?

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Re: Some questions about how to play as human

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:25 pm

Gold mine wall has its advantages and disadvantages.

Advantage;
Very powerful to block a strong vampire when the wall breaks.

Disadvantages;
Feeds vampire very rapidly and gives him massive exp to achieve lvl 60 and buy his way to 100.
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