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Post by [X3]RoXaS Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:18 pm

mamanga try 8 worker per house it can boost your lumber speed

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Post by -GoG-|Clone Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:10 am

8 worker per house boost ur lumber speed, and deto ur worker at 2.50 untill left 60/300 after that bough 1 Gold for ur slayer Vault . then upgrade house make furbolgs.. spam ur g mine asap at 3.30 get 32 gold. my fastest is 34 gold at 3.30

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Post by iLawlAtYou Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:24 am

Yeah, you'll want at least 30 gold by 3:30.

After that you deto your human harvesters and get 2 fangs.

And continue spamming goldmines.

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Post by d4rk_moonlight Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:24 pm

it just occured to me that Ultra Gold mine actually bring less GPL(gold per lumber ratio) than super gold mine

super costs 40k and brings 1 gold per 15 seconds

ultra costs 100k and brings 1 gold per 7 seconds

you can see that spamming super gms after cc is still good idea, though u will have the gold at a slower interval.

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Post by Kurisu Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:00 pm

I don't build supers until after I have all of my whites and greens finished. (I use colors because I am stupid.) After I have those, I will start with reds until the second I can move to gold/diamond. Ultra's are only a thing I max out at end game.

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Post by mamangan Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:06 am

Oh so thats how I should do it, I always had just 2 lumber houses.

And practically my computer sucks in specs, 10 years old now.

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Post by Englocked Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:16 am

Getting CC at 6min is quite easy when buying gold

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Post by mamangan Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:38 am

Englocked wrote:Getting CC at 6min is quite easy when buying gold

Isn't building GMs more efficient?

Or a combination of building GMs and buying gold is better? when is that or how many GMs before buying gold?

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Post by Kurisu Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:04 am

I just buy 1 gold and build gms >.> I believe that is more efficient, but I haven't played as human in a while, some people buy 25 gold so they can get citadel and super and just build super mines. . . .

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Post by Englocked Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:27 am

mamangan wrote:
Englocked wrote:Getting CC at 6min is quite easy when buying gold

Isn't building GMs more efficient?

Or a combination of building GMs and buying gold is better? when is that or how many GMs before buying gold?
Building Goldmines is way more efficient in the long run ofc :p, I'm just saying that 6:15 cc is easily beatable.
Kurisu wrote:I just buy 1 gold and build gms >.> I believe that is more efficient, but I haven't played as human in a while, some people buy 25 gold so they can get citadel and super and just build super mines. . . .
Ye, that's stupid, citadel doesn't improve our farming speed

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Post by mamangan Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:38 pm

Anyone here tried the math?

I mean what certain amount of gold would you need to buy at the start in order to have a faster gold acquisition?

Is it like buying gold to get fangs or something?

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Post by Englocked Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:32 am

buying gold for faster fangs is stupid, you lose way too much gold in the long term and you get more than 30 gold at 3'30 anyway. The only situation where it could be useful is when you upgrade to CC and you lack some gold to build another firespawn

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Post by carlos1018 Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:33 am

err sheesh can't get 6:15 twice ahahaha Sad....
best times always was 6:30 T_T....
and so on if the vampire/s harasses w/ (mass shades/graves/etc)
soo... anyone got replay by now?

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Post by Englocked Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:15 am

Why do you want a replay? and what replay?

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Post by iLawlAtYou Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:02 am

Probably a replay for 6:15 CC.


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Post by Englocked Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:23 am

As I understood he already did 6:15 CC once. So he knows how and he knows it's possible. What's the replay for?

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Post by iLawlAtYou Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:05 am

I guess seeing is believing.

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Post by UlquiorraSan Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:30 pm

alvinchiew wrote:Have anyone tested this? this myth is from SG, me and my team could do the 6.15 CC timing, but there's a long way to go for 8.48 BoO, the best time we had would be 9 minutes. Anyway have any ideas on the trick?

My CC timing is 6:01 and BOO timing is 8:46 Solo Single Player.
Heard SG v^ps clan fastest BOO timing was 8:30/8:32
It is possible, buy gold at some point of time ^^

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Post by DEAncientNaga Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:13 pm

UlquiorraSan wrote:My CC timing is 6:01 and BOO timing is 8:46 Solo Single Player.
Heard SG v^ps clan fastest BOO timing was 8:30/8:32
It is possible, buy gold at some point of time ^^
If you solo single player you can make money / lumber by using standard wc3 cheats!
If you really can do it without any hacking / cheating, prove it! Post replay on forum!

And the thing I heard is 8:48 BoO is the fastest in SG!!!

About buying gold idea, you could try yourself, if it works you may share to us.

Kindly reply.
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Post by [X3]RoXaS Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:30 am

buying gold idea make you easily break the boo record but its not worth for late game due to instant convert the gold but did not pump on your base income. In fact i prefer to build goldmine to pump my income for late game. Assume that white gm got about 200+ and so to green gm and if you build it finish within 9 minutes u can get about 1200+ gold in 1 minutes. that my opinion, correct me if i wrong. lol!

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Post by DEAncientNaga Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:57 am

@[X3]RoXaS

Yup, you're right.
lol!
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Post by iLawlAtYou Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:16 am

By maxing all goldmines, you will be earning 11200 gold/min (gpm)

200 whites (2 gpm each, total 400 gpm).
200 greens (4 gpm each, total 800 gpm).
200 reds (around 7.5 gpm, total 1500 gpm).
200 yellows (20 gpm, total 4000 gpm).
30 diamonds (150 gpm, total 4500 gpm).

This is an approximate, as the values are from memory.

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Post by UlquiorraSan Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:23 am

DEAncientNaga wrote:
UlquiorraSan wrote:My CC timing is 6:01 and BOO timing is 8:46 Solo Single Player.
Heard SG v^ps clan fastest BOO timing was 8:30/8:32
It is possible, buy gold at some point of time ^^
If you solo single player you can make money / lumber by using standard wc3 cheats!
If you really can do it without any hacking / cheating, prove it! Post replay on forum!

And the thing I heard is 8:48 BoO is the fastest in SG!!!

About buying gold idea, you could try yourself, if it works you may share to us.

Kindly reply.

I'm not really interested in CC and BOO timing because they don't really improve my Human skills and so on.
So I'm not sure of this but if I 6:01 CC, I will not be able to attain 8:46 BOO in the same game.
I tried only once or twice so I can say the timing is for 2 separate games.
The harvesters were only 12 Furbolgs and 2 the Rouge Knight Sven looking ones.
For 6:01 CC, build goldmines the normal way : 0:00 Super Goldmines and 0:15 Normal Goldmines then at around 5:30, spam buy gold at Vampire's base.
There's a low chance the timing can be improved if different tactics were employed.

For 8:46 BOO, build goldmines the same way as mentioned above but don't buy gold for CC.
Harvesters were 8 Furbolgs, 2 Sven's and 2 Larva Spawns.
I forgot when I started buying gold but it was around 7:30.
Also, this timing can be improved if you changed the time when you buy gold or whatever.

No cheats.
No hack.
No map editting.
No pooling.
No killing of Vampires or Mini Vampires
All solely based on self and no other additional factors.

I learned this methods which were rumored to have been created by SG v^ps.eliCia though mine may be different because I heard indirectly and they are a rather secretive bunch...

Here is the replay for 6:01 CC >>> http://www.mediafire.com/file/7hk5b1979m83j5d/Vampirism%20SPEED%202.48d.w3g

Download folder, Vampirism SPEED 2.48d official from Epicwar, 1.24e~


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Post by iLawlAtYou Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:37 pm

When postin replays please kindly state the version of Warcraft and the destination and name of the map uses.

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Post by DevilMouse Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:35 pm

hemmmm.......
I think it's quite possible if you have a lot of experience ^^ haha
the best I have ever do is 8'52 for boo.
The best trick is not to focus on building one type of mine. you prob can combine super nd ultra mine at once. just put ur ass on the clock. u may have extra 4-12 gold each minutes. I know that you will not believe it, but try it. Remember Practice makes perfect^^

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