1 gold at 3 minutes

View previous topic View next topic Go down

1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by GosuSheep on Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:16 am

It has come to my attention that a LOT of players have no idea how to get gold. It doesn't make any sense that they assume other players get gold by any other means than what is possible for them. Nonetheless, players are constantly asking for 1 gold without knowing any way of getting it themselves.

Let me ask this: Why do we get 1 gold by converting 8000 lumber? Why do we have to cut the trees in the middle in order to safely get this 1 gold? Was this Conversion Item created in an older version and was not originally intended for the humans? Do we still need this item? Why can't the humans just get 1 gold at 3 minutes?

Now, you may argue that some players actually convert MORE than 8000 lumber to gold. I believe that that is just another reason to remove the item. Players may believe that it's better to convert lumber instead of getting goldmines, but they should know it's not (if you want to argue about this point, I'm glad to do so).

Bottom line is: It is just another thing that humans have to remember, focus on, and teach newbies about. It might just be best to remove it. It might not be. Thus the thread.

Please... For the love of god... Do not make off-topic posts in this thread...
avatar
GosuSheep

Number of posts : 162
Location : California
Reputation : 3
Registration date : 2009-03-15

View user profile http://stwc.bb2.org

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by rqx on Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:28 am

The merchant area is a good gold source for the vamp by camping with items such as pulse staff and rings if they can catch humans buying gold at this 3 minute mark. The vamp is sort of the gatekeeper to slow down the humans from progressing to the next stage of their bases. If gold buying was eliminated, there would be a lot less action in the middle at the beginning of the game. I prefer to leave it the way it is since there is some strategy and thinking for both humans and vamps. Vamp beast has the automatic gold system in fast mode and it isn't really exciting or involving as it could be (like in vamp speed).

rqx

Mood :
Number of posts : 103
Reputation : 3
Registration date : 2009-03-19

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by GosuSheep on Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:37 am

I understand your point rqx. That was something I was thinking about: more action for humans.

I did not realize that vamps used this 3 minute mark as a somewhat of a camping opportunity. Interesting. I always cut the trees near the beginning of the game, so I rarely see units die from getting gold, but I see your point.

p.s. get on west more! /f a gosusheep
avatar
GosuSheep

Number of posts : 162
Location : California
Reputation : 3
Registration date : 2009-03-15

View user profile http://stwc.bb2.org

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by Greg on Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:09 am

If i remember right... Gold was in Fire... So its been in and has never been taken out from the shops.

_________________


The race to see who can have the most Wc3 hours. We are racing to 10,000 hours.
avatar
Greg
Global Moderator

Mood :
Number of posts : 564
Location : McDonald Islands
Reputation : -6
Registration date : 2009-02-07

View user profile http://VsPortal.tk

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by Englocked on Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:57 am

Actually, cutting trees does not allow you to buy gold safely, your slayer can still get pulse staffed and your human can die to stomp+chain+ring. I personnaly always camp with my vamp with pulse at 3' mark, there always some slayers to kill :p, I do not try to kill humans but I know it would be possible since I already died to it as human.
The only 2 ways I think to get gold safely is to use invulnerability, either with slayer that previously stole a vamp.concoction or with human.

Englocked

Number of posts : 193
Reputation : 1
Registration date : 2009-03-08

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by Greg on Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:09 pm

Yea, human has divine.

_________________


The race to see who can have the most Wc3 hours. We are racing to 10,000 hours.
avatar
Greg
Global Moderator

Mood :
Number of posts : 564
Location : McDonald Islands
Reputation : -6
Registration date : 2009-02-07

View user profile http://VsPortal.tk

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by MySpaceBarBroke on Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:31 pm

There are alot of "average" players do that not buy those items, and even if they do, just simply blink in with main human and cats divine shield.
avatar
MySpaceBarBroke

Mood :
Number of posts : 78
Location : Set Home = (Owner of (Picked Players)) Home
Reputation : 1
Registration date : 2009-03-15

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:49 pm

MySpaceBarBroke wrote:There are alot of "average" players do that not buy those items, and even if they do, just simply blink in with main human and cats divine shield.
Mine is to enter the tree beside the statue, close to the Demonic Gate.
avatar
!|cff0000ffClue
Global Moderator

Mood :
Number of posts : 330
Location : At April's Grave
Reputation : 2
Registration date : 2009-02-06

View user profile http://vsportal.forumotion.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by Silversong on Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:08 pm

Totally agree with rqx, there is a lot of action in mid due to the gold shop. My personal strategy is a meat wagon asap that harvests slayers while I'm harassing bases. I return around the 4 min mark with enough cash for urn, tp and pulse. Camp a little, eating slayers that come by while i distribute my shades. If they cut a tree, i use urn reveal 1st and pulse second, kills all slayers in the pool, too (if not, port there, stomp and finish them off). This, more than chainlightning on humans, is an early game source of income that starts me off with a bunch of useful items that ammortise in no time at all.

I see your point about educating newbies, sheep, but making it easier instead of forcing them to read up on strategies may not yield better results. What good is a noob who gets one gold automagically and still build a base that I could take down with my shade alone?! Nothing. I don't give these people gold either. Instead, why not tell them to come here and read up?

Silversong

Number of posts : 38
Reputation : 0
Registration date : 2009-04-11

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:23 pm

Silversong wrote:Totally agree with rqx, there is a lot of action in mid due to the gold shop. My personal strategy is a meat wagon asap that harvests slayers while I'm harassing bases. I return around the 4 min mark with enough cash for urn, tp and pulse. Camp a little, eating slayers that come by while i distribute my shades. If they cut a tree, i use urn reveal 1st and pulse second, kills all slayers in the pool, too (if not, port there, stomp and finish them off). This, more than chainlightning on humans, is an early game source of income that starts me off with a bunch of useful items that ammortise in no time at all.

I see your point about educating newbies, sheep, but making it easier instead of forcing them to read up on strategies may not yield better results. What good is a noob who gets one gold automagically and still build a base that I could take down with my shade alone?! Nothing. I don't give these people gold either. Instead, why not tell them to come here and read up?
The problem is not everyone cares to read. I, admit by myself, that I do not care to read a post once its longer than 140 words.
avatar
!|cff0000ffClue
Global Moderator

Mood :
Number of posts : 330
Location : At April's Grave
Reputation : 2
Registration date : 2009-02-06

View user profile http://vsportal.forumotion.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by Englocked on Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:28 pm

The problem is that you have to count the words to make sure that there are less than 140 before you start reading. Also what if you find out that there are 141 ? If you stick to the rule and don't read, all the counting would have been for nothing.. And what if the posts contains very long words like "Honorificabilitudinitatibus" ?

Englocked

Number of posts : 193
Reputation : 1
Registration date : 2009-03-08

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by Silversong on Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:01 am

Maybe use pictures and video for the kids to learn to play?

Silversong

Number of posts : 38
Reputation : 0
Registration date : 2009-04-11

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by GosuSheep on Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:20 am

Video Tutorials are an excellent idea. However, this would require this site to be an ACTUAL SITE; not just a forum.
avatar
GosuSheep

Number of posts : 162
Location : California
Reputation : 3
Registration date : 2009-03-15

View user profile http://stwc.bb2.org

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by !|cff0000ffClue on Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:03 pm

Englocked wrote:The problem is that you have to count the words to make sure that there are less than 140 before you start reading. Also what if you find out that there are 141 ? If you stick to the rule and don't read, all the counting would have been for nothing.. And what if the posts contains very long words like "Honorificabilitudinitatibus" ?
I do not count, but estimate. Usually when the post has roughly 4-5 lines and has a low attraction on the start of the sentence, I would just skip to the next topic unless it is the last one.
avatar
!|cff0000ffClue
Global Moderator

Mood :
Number of posts : 330
Location : At April's Grave
Reputation : 2
Registration date : 2009-02-06

View user profile http://vsportal.forumotion.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by mysticdude42 on Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:29 pm

i agree 100% with gosu, those players who call slayer(s)/human(s) to go to mid to buy gold wOULD just be killed by vamps if they knew the right item and be fed btw itd be dumb to convert 8 k lumber to 1 gold till building via command center coz its gna be dangerous when u wna convert 8k lumber to 1 gold at late game(considering u have no gm's) coz vamp's stun is like ....1500 aoe i assume? and after he just remove those item he has in his inven theyd just die like that Lawl
avatar
mysticdude42

Mood :
Number of posts : 85
Location : I come from the Darkness.. :D
Reputation : -1
Registration date : 2009-12-20

View user profile http://www.vsportal.tk

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by julian90 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:21 pm

How actually you guys make gold in the early game? I really blur about this! Since all the player that play with me all have gold to make command centre in early game, but for me i have to wait till 15 minutes for the bonus gold. If not because of the bonus gold, it will be impossible for me to have a gold in the game. But by the mean time, while i have to wait till that 15 minutes. the vamp already on the move hunting the human, and the vamp surely be fat while i'm waiting for that 15 minutes to pass. How i want to get the gold in the early game actually???

julian90

Number of posts : 4
Reputation : 0
Registration date : 2010-02-18

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by Greg on Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:18 am

To get gold early in the game at three minutes you have to teleport to the middle of the map and buy one gold for 8000 wood from the Demonic Merchant. The merchant that is holding the big sword.

_________________


The race to see who can have the most Wc3 hours. We are racing to 10,000 hours.
avatar
Greg
Global Moderator

Mood :
Number of posts : 564
Location : McDonald Islands
Reputation : -6
Registration date : 2009-02-07

View user profile http://VsPortal.tk

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by alvinchiew on Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:36 pm

to add more info, after you bought the gold build slayer vault, after that your worker could build gold mines

_________________
Emo Chipmunk, Thou see the world as a big maze, and thee are lost in it.
avatar
alvinchiew
Admin

Mood :
Number of posts : 354
Location : [Oblivion] The Past, The Present, and The Future
Reputation : 2
Registration date : 2009-03-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by dumbassking on Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:01 am

Well the reason why u don't get a gold at 3 minutes is its supposed to be hard... to do with the vamp guarding it(atleast that was the plan until people figured out they can cut trees there)... but think about it like this if the vamp was to guard the place at all times then he wouldnt gain anything while humans develop faster...Even if you did die it would only feed the vamp a little bit...(if you were thinking to use ur builder to do this ur crazy) I think a notice should be displayed to tell people to buy gold at center(maybe on the citadel)...
avatar
dumbassking

Mood :
Number of posts : 25
Location : Somewhere,Nowhere,Everywhere all at once
Reputation : 0
Registration date : 2010-02-12

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by alvinchiew on Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:05 am

dumbassking wrote:(if you were thinking to use ur builder to do this ur crazy)
Sry... for Pure Farmer like us he won't make any Slayers unless we are forced to , for builders to buy gold at middle its quite simple, just open ur divine shield and blink there get 1 gold and blink back, simple enough

_________________
Emo Chipmunk, Thou see the world as a big maze, and thee are lost in it.
avatar
alvinchiew
Admin

Mood :
Number of posts : 354
Location : [Oblivion] The Past, The Present, and The Future
Reputation : 2
Registration date : 2009-03-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by dumbassking on Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:02 am

Yeh but thats the whole point u get a disadvantage if u go pure farming Twisted Evil
avatar
dumbassking

Mood :
Number of posts : 25
Location : Somewhere,Nowhere,Everywhere all at once
Reputation : 0
Registration date : 2010-02-12

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by [X3]RoXaS on Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:10 am

not at all, our Juan use slayers to protect us Very Happy

[X3]RoXaS

Number of posts : 70
Reputation : 0
Registration date : 2009-11-27

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by alvinchiew on Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:41 pm

@Roxas, that is like you need him to be there, and play as a supporter for us.

@DumbAssKing, not quite true, if we are like going pure farming our gold would definitely increased by alot, either we scares the vamp away with a couple of comet towers, or just build a better defense.

_________________
Emo Chipmunk, Thou see the world as a big maze, and thee are lost in it.
avatar
alvinchiew
Admin

Mood :
Number of posts : 354
Location : [Oblivion] The Past, The Present, and The Future
Reputation : 2
Registration date : 2009-03-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by iLawlAtYou on Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:45 pm

Just add a message saying "You may now buy gold from the shop at the vampire's base" or something similar.

Problem solved.

iLawlAtYou
Global Moderator

Number of posts : 174
Reputation : -1
Registration date : 2009-11-27

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by Greg on Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:00 am

Yea... Simple as that but many people don't read those messages, it is worth a try though.

_________________


The race to see who can have the most Wc3 hours. We are racing to 10,000 hours.
avatar
Greg
Global Moderator

Mood :
Number of posts : 564
Location : McDonald Islands
Reputation : -6
Registration date : 2009-02-07

View user profile http://VsPortal.tk

Back to top Go down

Re: 1 gold at 3 minutes

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum