request for Vamp strategy

I found that most of the threads are talking about how to pawn a vamp and how to build a great base . Im a new vamp player . For my past 4 weeks experience on GG , i found there r quite a lot of pro human . The games always ended up with feeding the vamp in 6 mins . The point is , WHERE IS THE PRO VAMP?
Unless the game has few newbies (i dun like to use the word "noob") and feed the vamp again and again , otherwise vamp will never won the game .

It;s quite pathetic that if all of the humans build emerald wall plus wall healing , up workers HP , 99% vamp will lose .

I hope those pro in vamp can share with us how to be a pro vamp , even there r no feeder in the game .

The game is more fun with pro vamp isnt it?

Im bored with the game that i build my base so hard but the vamp died in 5 mins .

GG vamp dunno buy immune shield to counter spike and i saw quite a lot of high lvl vamp (twice lvl 100) died of spiky wall . >.<

They dunno buy mask to counter faeries . The vamp came with 3 tigers and one shield (i overfed him) . I had 5 end game walls there , 4th walls was gold wall . He broke my 1st and 2nd wall within one secs . I acticated my faeris and he died within one secs .
LOLZ .

I hope someone can make a complete vamp guide for all of us ^^ .

p/s: i used to build 2 faeris ( i dunno it stacks or not) and hide it inside gold mine . Vamp will never noticed my faerie . I wont activate it unless i wanna end the game . ^^ .

In most cases, there will be noob humans... If they get early emmy's i grave and chain them early cash. This works (in most cases) on workers ranging between 100-1500 depending on your chain lvl. (thats lvl 1)

And yeah there are lot of pro vamps in West..most of the time. Bugger i aint there

And no offence mate, but i kinda struggled too read your writing

Greg , Malaysia network isnt good enough to play on battlenet .

Broke , sorry for my poor English . Grave + CL works but they will deto their workers . Mostly i killed 5-6 workers out of 36 , the rest detonated . T.T

pikachu88 wrote:p/s: i used to build 2 faeris ( i dunno it stacks or not) and hide it inside gold mine . Vamp will never noticed my faerie . I wont activate it unless i wanna end the game . ^^ .

They do not stack.

Greg , Malaysia network isnt good enough to play on battlenet .

Broke , sorry for my poor English . Grave + CL works but they will deto their workers . Mostly i killed 5-6 workers out of 36 , the rest detonated . T.T

Use a mixture of distraction, grave, chain and assassins. You can't always rely on Guides nowadays since everyone reads, learns and counters the guide posted.

!|cff0000ffClue wrote:Use a mixture of distraction, grave, chain and assassins..

Yeah, partically when they don't have seeing and towers next to their harvestors. So attack their main wall then use assassins to kill harvestor's, cos they'll pay attention to their walls, and not their harvestors. Even that gets me most of the time


p.s: Is "Harvestor's" "Harvesters" or "Harvestors"? Same with "Creator" or "Creater" IDK

It's really all about moving fast and making quick decisions. If they take one source of income away from you, use a different one. Just don't spend much time thinking. Chances are the faster you can switch strategies the more likely it is you will catch someone off guard. I rarely lose these days as a vamp, there is always the possibility to quickly port in somewhere or otherwise cause havoc.

I play in eurobattle and this is what i do. I use to win always, always 1 feeder atleast on eurobattle.

1. reveal rigth middle map and try to chain all unupgraded workers (if there are)
2. Get urn and graves, reveal and go chain the weekers workers (or grave+chain)
3.Go kill heroes (stomp first)
4.Buy demonic remains.
5.Break into some bases
6.Buy shield and sphere. Go kill heroes.
7.Go destroy the rest bases and keep buying things.

Pd: sorry for my english xD

Neither, i get Teleport rod and tank up shades till they have like 3k dmg and blink in ppl's bases. Cos alot of ppl don't have a back up wall well, it's like emmy or something weak. It works.. then if they get end games (comets and lightnings) i'll mask, tiger, sphere, immune and possibly a shield if i have the cash. Although this is an early game tatic and alot of ppl arn't aware of it, it should work most of the time depending on the amount of shades you have, the damage they deal and if they have towers, hp.

It's probably the best way to kill a good human fast if you can afford teched shades very early (needless to say u need 1 feeder ~~)

vampirism is kind of a imbalanced game.its harder for vamp.if no feeders+worker super hp+tower superhp+no slayers in pool=bb,gg for vamp

...I can guarentee you, that there WILL be at LEAST one feeder per game. If i recall, i never remember having a full "pro" game. Theres at least one feeder.

If theres not, then it's either:

GG if vamp is noob (or if he gets fed, still gg)
A chance if the vamp were pro.

In any case humans are all pros, meaning worker hp upgrades, walls of health, and emerald wall before vamp spawns, it is sure gg.

Even if you try to buy graves, pro humans should use slayers to grab the graves.

So the only chance you have is to use lvl 1 golem or buy an urn and stack up the money till you can afford an assassin.

Level 1 Inferno the player's houses, end their lumbering.

Get urn and graves.

Find base with relatively low worker hp

Grave chain

Cloak of shadows, claw of dreadlord.

Find base without wall of seeing

Break.

iLawlAtYou wrote:Level 1 Inferno the player's houses, end their lumbering.

Get urn and graves.

Find base with relatively low worker hp

Grave chain

Cloak of shadows, claw of dreadlord.

Find base without wall of seeing

Break.

Doesn't work on smart players. Cloak+claw strategy is easily countered just by having a couple of extra walls. I see lots of players building at least 4 walls nowadays... claw doesn't last that long.

!|cff0000ffClue wrote:

iLawlAtYou wrote:Level 1 Inferno the player's houses, end their lumbering.

Get urn and graves.

Find base with relatively low worker hp

Grave chain

Cloak of shadows, claw of dreadlord.

Find base without wall of seeing

Break.

Doesn't work on smart players. Cloak+claw strategy is easily countered just by having a couple of extra walls. I see lots of players building at least 4 walls nowadays... claw doesn't last that long.

But if you get to destroy three walls, that is also 300 gold, more like a refund I would say. But you can use that to buy an assassin or have damage or str upgrades.

spacebar wrote:...I can guarentee you, that there WILL be at LEAST one feeder per game. If i recall, i never remember having a full "pro" game. Theres at least one feeder.

You can't guarantee that...

If you can't handle the garena games, go on battle.net. There are more newbies there. If you want to play on garena, go for the workers, then for the assassins.

Garena has more better vamp speed players than battle.net? Well most likely because there really are more players in garena than battle.net.

And apparently I did experience playing everyone good enough, not giving any feed. Good thing they don't know that much about consumables, mostly I played with players with just brute force and no consumable incorporated techniques at all.

maman wrote:Well most likely because there really are more players in garena than battle.net.

I believe you mean to say that there are more experienced players on Garena. There certainly aren't more players. The reason there isn't as much feed on Garena is BECAUSE there aren't as many players. The larger the population, the larger the chance of really bad newbies-.-

I heard Garena hosts ban end towers =\

I believe thats only for Singapore room.

Their standard bans are:

Tree cutter, both missles, dreadlord and heart of blood, pets (stuff from the warlock shop, summons)

End game towers and Spike wall.

GosuSheep wrote:

maman wrote:Well most likely because there really are more players in garena than battle.net.

I believe you mean to say that there are more experienced players on Garena. There certainly aren't more players. The reason there isn't as much feed on Garena is BECAUSE there aren't as many players. The larger the population, the larger the chance of really bad newbies-.-

I heard Garena hosts ban end towers =\

I'm not telling that there are more better players, there are more players. And if we consider so the proportion of pro and noobs being the same in both servers, the larger the number the more are the pros. Sure noobs do play but in time pros stay longer in playing.

And what is the total player count in battle.net? I think more people play in garena because you don't need an original wc3.

Also I haven't been in a game of bans, never. It's cutting of all working strategies into easily countered crap, I do not see any thrill with that.

maman wrote:I'm not telling that there are more better players, there are more players. And if we consider so the proportion of pro and noobs being the same in both servers, the larger the number the more are the pros. Sure noobs do play but in time pros stay longer in playing.

This is just false. There are likely hundreds and hundreds of people that play vamp speed on any given server during a short period of time. I imagine there are less than 20 vamp speed players on Garena playing during that same period of time (they all play dota). More pros develop as they enjoy the game, but there is a virtually endless supply of newbies.